Talk:Lord Recluse Strike Force

OK, this article is nearly as complete as I can make it. There are only a few minor gaps in the mission text; I think everything else is good.

Kgiesing 17:33, 4 October 2006 (PDT)

I saw somewhere that Slinger, the Malta boss in Assault Malta Base is an Arch-Villain - is this true? Anyone know? Abyssal 22:45, 20 December 2006 (PST)

Formatting

Not that I have much needs to edit the article directly, but wouldn't it be better to have the final section be 'Strategies', a subcategory under it titled 'General Strategies' as the current GS section is, and another subcategory describing particular strategies, like the Mass Hypnosis Pull?

Under that heading, you could put such things as the Stonecore party (Stone Brute, 7 Corruptors), or the Stacked Domination party (8 Dominators) and so on. As it is, it seems a bit weird that the Hypnosis Pull gets its own section when it'd be tidier otherwise.

Just a suggestion, mind. --Talen Lee 16:15, 28 February 2007 (PST)

I'm all for it. I just tacked it at the end because the page is already a bit of a mess. Should also be edited to avoid showing a preference for a specific team makeup, and preferably to take importance away from team powers... a good team doesn't need them. this article actually would benefit from a full rewrite, but I don't really have the time for it (college starts in two weeks) -- Leandro 01:13, 1 March 2007 (PST)

On a related note, would it be worthwhile composing a 'Criticisms' section, which mentions such things as complaints about the bugged tech, the cookie-cutter Stonecore teams that typically approach it, and the claim the devs had that they COULDN'T finish it first? I'm sure you could find multiple quotes supporting either sides, and there's nothing saying you couldn't maintain neutrality between the two. --Talen Lee

Is there a specific reason why Mass Hypnosis is singeld out over Plants -. Spore Burst. They both seem to have the same duration, Mag and recharge ? Catwhoorg 08:24, 13 April 2007 (PDT)

Upon defeating the last member of the Freedom Phalanx, each member of the team will be presented with a reward choice table. Players may choose either a rare "Trial Pool" Invention recipe, level 53 single-origin damage, accuracy, recharge, or endurance reduction enhancement, or a Synthetic Hamidon Origin Enhancement. Players have an opportunity to clear space in their enhancement trays before accepting the reward.

This information is incorrect. Players cannot choose a "Trial Pool" (Pool D)drop. They can choose a Task Force Pool (Pool C).--Spmurphy

NPCs

The Notable NPC sections in this article are laughable on to non-existant. This needs correcting. TayJK 15:45, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Strategy

Speaking of massive edits. . . any thoughts on moving the Strategy sections to their own document to keep this particular article specific to the actual content of the TF? --Eabrace 17:56, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I see that this was done, and I think that was a good move, but, only about one third of the strategy comments made it to the new page. Also, the one EdNote which was not strategy got taken out. I hope this doesn't represent a purge of EdNotes simply because they're EdNotes. The template exists precisely to be used within mission texts to explain something as factually true of the mission which is not in the mission text itself. That's not strategy and that should stay in the article. Zombie Man 06:19, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

No, no purging of EdNotes in general going on. Guy Perfect went through and moved the strategy bits to the strategy section and did some cleaning. I moved the strategy section to its own subpage. Which note did you think needed to stay in? --Eabrace 06:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

It's hard not to see it as a purge. Did you compare what Guy Perfect ended up with to what was originally there? EdNote Strategy on what to do in Warburg -- gone. EdNote Strategy on the Future Freedom Phalanx -- gone. EdNote Strategy on the Vindicators -- gone. Some of the EdNote Strategy on the Freedom Phalanx -- gone. This was more than a clean up. The EdNote under the Future Freedom Phalanx that stated all groups fight each other is not a strategy guide. It's a fact about the mission. If it's not true anymore, then it should be removed. It it's still true, then it should stay. Like I said, I'm all for moving guide info to it's own page. Completely erasing the guide info other editors have contributed should not have happened unless Guy Perfect wants to make that case that everything in those guide sections are antiquated because of more recent changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zombie Man (talk • contribs) 02:16, 6 February 2011

When you say "purge", that implies to me a complete removal of all EdNotes from all articles just for the sake of getting rid of EdNotes. That's not what happened and there's no plan to perform such a purge. Strategy tips were initially moved to a section at the bottom of the page in order to separate them from the documentation of the arc. They were then moved to a separate page which is categorized under Player Guides (Strategy) because they are, to state the obvious, strategy. Now, I know there were a few things Guy noticed were no longer true as we were running through the LRSF last night, and he probably took those out. That's why I was asking what note you specifically thought should have remained. --Eabrace 02:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

What should have remained? All of it except those bits that have changed. Have you read all those sections that have been simply deleted rather than cleaned up? Let me repeat that. They were *deleted*, they were *not* "cleaned up" and they were not "moved." I would simply restore them except for the fact that the editing note said you two were collaborating on this. Did you collaborate on the wholesale deletions, or, should I be taking this up solely with Guy Perfect? Because if that's the case, they're all coming back as they were. Zombie Man 06:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I believe the edit in question is this one by Guy: [1]. It does indeed look like he removed all EdNotes from the article wholesale (a notion further supported by the fact that one of those EdNotes was later restored since it wasn't strategy: [2]), and I do not see that content on the Strategy subpage. It very much looks to me that the content was deleted, not moved. I have no opinion on what should happen on that content (I've never even run the LRSF, so I have no idea what needs kept, changed, or removed), but I can definitely see why Zombie Man called it a purge. -- Sekoia 07:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)