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:No no no, nothing is ignored if it gives someone a ridiculously brilliant idea. Observe: The Power Table section is supposed to give a concise yet meaningful list of powers. Your table could be tacked on to the end of each power table. --[[User:Konoko|Konoko]] 20:02, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
:No no no, nothing is ignored if it gives someone a ridiculously brilliant idea. Observe: The Power Table section is supposed to give a concise yet meaningful list of powers. Your table could be tacked on to the end of each power table. --[[User:Konoko|Konoko]] 20:02, 31 October 2007 (EDT)


===Scrapper===
===Scrapper (original table)===
{{Powers_LevelHeader}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_LightOpening.png|Power=Nimble Slash|Level=1|Effect=Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal).  |Extra=Begins Empower and Weaken combos|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_ModerateOpening.png|Power=Power Slice|Level=1|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal).|Extra= Needed for Sweep combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_ModerateBridge.png|Power=Ablating Strike|Level=2|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense.|Extra= Needed for Empower and Weaken combos, begins Attack Vitals combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_AoEBridge.png|Power=Typhoon's Edge|Level=6|Effect=Point Blank Area of Effect Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal).|Extra= Finishes Weaken and Sweep combos|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_FollowUp.png|Power=Blinding Feint|Level=8|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal) Self +Damage +Accuracy.|Extra= Finishes Empower combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_Taunt.png|Power=Confront|Level=12|Effect=Ranged, Foe Taunt|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_Special1.png|Power=Vengeful Slice|Level=18|Effect=Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal), Foe Knockdown.|Extra= Needed for Attack Vitals combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_Special2.png|Power=Sweeping Strike|Level=26|Effect=Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).|Extra= Finishes Attack Vitals combo|Border=1}}
{{Powers_LevelRow|Icon=DualBlades_HighLow.png|Power=One Thousand Cuts|Level=32|Effect=Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).|Extra= Begins Sweep combo|Border=0}}
{{Powers_Footer}}
 
===Scrapper (with combos)===
{{Powers_LevelComboHeader|Combo1=Weaken|Combo2=Empower|Combo3=Attack Vitals|Combo4=Sweep}}
{{Powers_LevelComboHeader|Combo1=Weaken|Combo2=Empower|Combo3=Attack Vitals|Combo4=Sweep}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_LightOpening.png|Power=Nimble Slash|Level=1|Effect=Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal).  |Combo1=1|Combo2=1}}
{{Powers_LevelComboRow|Icon=DualBlades_LightOpening.png|Power=Nimble Slash|Level=1|Effect=Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal).  |Combo1=1|Combo2=1}}

Revision as of 20:17, 31 October 2007

Combo Tables

I used class="wikitable" to get the general table formatting (thin borders, grey backgrounds on headers). Comments? Suggestions? --Konoko 02:00, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Looks much better like this. I'm still questioning my use of colors in the tables. At the very least they ought to be changed to a paler hue, like the blue in the nav bar. Now to add a little more detail to the combo effects! -Pythe 14:42, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

I'm thinking about combining the combo attack tables... I'll throw an idea at the bottom here, after I sketch it out here... -Pythe 15:13, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Combination Attacks

Brute, Tanker, Scrapper

Combo Name Empower Weaken Attack Vitals Sweep
Effect +Damage (Like Build Up) Enemy -ToHit, -Def Cone Minor Damage Over Time(Lethal) PBAoE Minor Damage(Lethal), Knockdown
Open Nimble Slash Nimble Slash Ablating Strike One Thousand Cuts
Continue Ablating Strike Ablating Strike Vengeful Slice Power Slice
Finish Blinding Feint Typhoon's Edge Sweeping Strike Typhoon's Edge

Stalker

Combo Name Empower Weaken Attack Vitals Sweep
Effect +Damage (Like Build Up) Enemy -ToHit, -Def Cone Minor Damage Over Time(Lethal) PBAoE Minor Damage(Lethal), Knockdown
Open Build Up Sweeping Strike Ablating Strike Build Up
Continue Assassin's Blades Power Slice Nimble Slash Assassin's Blades
Finish Placate One Thousand Cuts Vengeful Slice Ablating Slice

Combined Combo Table

This seems reasonable, if hard to read. Perhaps seperate each combo into its own table? Or color each main rows alternately? -Pythe

Still hard to read with colors. Comments? -Pythe

While I like icons, I'd rather have the names there, but Tanker/Scrapper/Brute is a little too wide. --Konoko 20:12, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
Combo Name Effect Attacks
Empower +Damage Nimble Slash Build Up
Ablating Strike Assassin's Blades
Blinding Feint Placate
Weaken Foe -ToHit, -Def Nimble Slash Sweeping Strike
Ablating Strike Power Slice
Typhoon's Edge One Thousand Cuts
Attack Vitals Cone Minor Damage over Time(Lethal) Ablating Strike Ablating Strike
Vengeful Slice Nimble Slice
Sweeping Strike Vengeful Slice
Sweep PBAoE Damage(Lethal), Knockdown One Thousand Cuts Build Up
Power Slice Assassin's Blades
Typhoon's Edge Ablating Strike

GreyDog's out-of-his-gourd idea

This is a tricky concept to get across. Personally, I find the Power Name/Icon confusing, in isolation. They only way I really get a sense of a power is seeing it in the context of the whole powerset. So, an ideal chart for me would look something like this... --Greydog

Powers Weaken Empower Attack Vitals Sweep
Nimble Slash 1 1
Power Slice 2
Ablating Strike 2 2 1
Typhoon's Edge 3 3
Blinding Feint 3
Confront
Vengeful Slice 2
Sweeping Strike 3
One Thousand Cuts 1

I could be out of my gourd, however. Feel free to ignore my comment if I'm in the minority.--GreyDog 17:19, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

No no no, nothing is ignored if it gives someone a ridiculously brilliant idea. Observe: The Power Table section is supposed to give a concise yet meaningful list of powers. Your table could be tacked on to the end of each power table. --Konoko 20:02, 31 October 2007 (EDT)

Scrapper (original table)

Power Level Effect
Nimble Slash 1 Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal).
Power Slice 1 Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal).
Ablating Strike 2 Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense.
Typhoon's Edge 6 Point Blank Area of Effect Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal).
Blinding Feint 8 Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal) Self +Damage +Accuracy.
Confront 12 Ranged, Foe Taunt
Vengeful Slice 18 Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal), Foe Knockdown.
Sweeping Strike 26 Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).
One Thousand Cuts 32 Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).

Scrapper (with combos)

Power Level Effect Weaken
{{{Effect1}}}
Empower
{{{Effect2}}}
Attack Vitals
{{{Effect3}}}
Sweep
{{{Effect4}}}
Nimble Slash 1 Melee, Minor Damage (Lethal). 1 1    
Power Slice 1 Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal).       2
Ablating Strike 2 Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal), Foe -Defense. 2 2 1  
Typhoon's Edge 6 Point Blank Area of Effect Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal). 3     3
Blinding Feint 8 Melee, Moderate Damage (Lethal) Self +Damage +Accuracy.   3    
Confront 12 Ranged, Foe Taunt        
Vengeful Slice 18 Melee, Moderate Damage(Lethal), Foe Knockdown.     3  
Sweeping Strike 26 Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).     2  
One Thousand Cuts 32 Melee (Cone), Superior Damage (Lethal).       1